Korean E2 Visa Drug Test Pot Free

What might be old news to some teachers will be a sigh of relief to others. As of March 15th, the Korean Immigration Service announced the Ministry of Justice has dropped the cannabinoid test from the medical check required to receive an alien registration card. According to the Ministry, the change is a result of complaints about the new regulations that came into effect Dec. 15th, 2007. 

And there have been other changes as well. The validity of the criminal background check will be extended from three months to six months and there have also been changes to the Apostille required in the United States (see link below). The regulations of Dec. 15th, 2007 have created headaches for consulate officials and teachers alike and stirred some bad publicity for Korea's English as a Second Language industry. With these current changes perhaps President Lee is trying to fix the flawed and hastily put in place regulations by his predecessor. The Ministry of Justice has said they will continue to take suggestions in order to improve the new visa regulations. 

Refer here for the announcement from the Korean Immigration Service:
http://www.immigration.go.kr/HP/IMM80/imm_09/focus.jsp 

To see what some are saying about the new changes, check out some forums at Korea Bridge: 
http://www.koreabridge.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5419 

By Spencer McCall

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  • 6/1/2008 Anonymous wrote:
    This is not true. It has been recently proven that they still DO run these tests. This sort of misinformation is just a scam to get more people caught and in trouble in Korea.
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    1. 6/1/2008 ESL Daily wrote:
      According to the immigration office the law has been dropped.  However, the doctor can basically check for anything just as long as he checks for infectious diseases.  If the hospital has the means to check for drugs they just might.  However, most hospitals do not have the resources to do the marijuana and other tests to make the law stick.  Either way, I would not want to take the chance, it’s best just to abstain if you are going to Korea (or any other Asian country for that matter).
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      1. 6/10/2008 Someone wrote:
        Because I am hyper sensentive I do not use, in other words I have no moral problem with using. Personaly I think all drugs should legalized. In any case Vietnam and Cambodia are safe, if one is looking for an Asian destination to use. At least in Vietnam using weed seems to normal and culturaly accepted.I would agree with the above that if one is going anywhere else in Asia, do not use... it is not worth the risk.
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        1. 2/25/2009 david wrote:
          lol wow..so many things wrong w/this i wont even start "all drugs should be legalized" rofl.
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          1. 1/28/2010 Brent wrote:
            Criminal prohibition is ineffective as a solution to drug abuse, so legalization and regulation is the proper approach. The statement from the poster above is perfectly valid, both from a personal freedom standpoint (the government should not have a say in what an adult can or cannot consume; it should only recommend and provide information) as well as from a social policy standpoint. If you look at rates of abuse in countries with legal and regulated drugs vs those with prohibitive policies, you will find lower and declining rates of abuse in those where drug addiction is treated as a public health problem and not a legal issue. So, in fact, there is not anything wrong with that statement. It is well supported by research and statistics.
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    2. 10/13/2009 nickles wrote:
      They do run the tests still at some hospitals and I landed at one of these. I failed my drug test for weed, was denied my alien registration and am heading back home. Give yourself at least 15 days as the test is just a urine test (at the hosptial I was at anyway)... good luck
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      1. 10/14/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
        It's a little to late to tell you.  However, you could have requested to NOT have the test done.  Doctors can not test for anything that you do not wish to be done.  I am sorry to hear about your situation. 

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      2. 10/22/2009 rob wrote:
        Hey Nickles

        Which hospital did u have ur tests at?

        It would be helpful if u can tell me.

        Thanks
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  • 6/22/2008 the jyu wrote:
    From what I'm gathering,
    I feel it might be necessary to make a distinction.

    and please correct me if I'm wrong:

    1. The immigration office wont test for cannabis

    2. However this does not mean that individual institutions, such as hagwons, will not drug test.

    But in either case, you shouldn't do drugs nor is this an excuse for people to continue their habits.

    Just quit.


    I am still curious, however, what kind of drug tests are performed. I need a little mental preparation if its a blood test - needles give me quite a scare.
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    1. 6/23/2008 ESL Daily wrote:
      Great questions.
      The current situation, it is not required by immigration medical to take a cannabis drug test.  The medical is basically weeding out problematic diseases, such as TB and HIV.  Originally they wanted to do drug tests, however, the vast majority of hospitals lack the resourses to do the drug tests.  However, each doctor/hospital has their own medical standards.  If the hospital wants to comment about your tattoo or do an eye check, they can.  To my best knowledge, the hospital will not do a cannabis test.  Even if your school requests it, they hopsital MOST LIKELY will not have the equipment (their are 2 or 3 hopsitals in Seoul that can).  They will check your blood for HIV, blood type, and some other diseases.  In my honest opinion, if you go in to take the test, it will most likely be quick and painless as long as you don’t have any contagious diseases.

      But remember, the institution, the hospital, and the immigration are all not connected.  Their is not an immigration officer waiting in the back of the hopsital waiting for someone to fail the medical.
        The hospital is not trying to find ways to bust you.  They do not have a "foreigner only exam" where they really try to find something wrong with you.  They just do a Korean standard medical exam.  Blood pressure, height, age, eye color, hair color, x-ray (I think for T, blood type (Korean thing) A AB... and infecous diseases. 

      Korean Law can change fast, this is what I know as of June 23, 2008.

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  • 11/4/2008 gsmiley wrote:
    I realise this may be a tiring subject, but I am due to come to teach in South Korea in April and I am worried about being drug tested. I have been smoking weed daily for several years, as well as taking many other substances during that time. Now, assuming I don't have ANY of these drugs in the next five months do you think I will pass any tests I require for E2 registration? Will it be a hair/blood/urine test?

    Any answers will be muh appreciated (unless they take a moralistic tone in regard to my bad habits). Thanks.
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    1. 12/11/2008 Brenho wrote:
      I also would like an answer to this question. I have recently gave up my pot habit and I am planning on moving in 3 months. My fear is that I'll get there, be caught and have to go through deportation. I'm seriously thinking about going elsewhere now.
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      1. 12/12/2008 ESL Daily wrote:
        I really do not think you have anything to worry about. 

        1. They do not do the pot test anymore in Korea, so long as they do not change the law back.

        2. As long as you have not done other drugs that stay in your system, pot generally passes through you quite quickly.  3 months should be good enough to be clean out of your body.  Also, you are not required to take the medical test as soon as you enter the country.  I believe you have up to 3 months before applying for your ARC card (Alien Registration Card).

        As long as you have not done it for a long time, and you do not do it in the country... I would not use that as your decision method for working in Korea.  Hope this helps you out

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      2. 12/29/2008 Tay wrote:
        Does anyone know what type of cannabis test they do? urine, follicle, or blood.
        I have been smoking daily for over a year. I was planning on leaving for korea in two months. If i stop now do you think i will be ok? I do not want to be deported for something I did in the states.
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        1. 12/29/2008 ESL Daily wrote:
          Korea does not do the Pot test any more.  You should not worry.  Most hospitals do not have the resources to do it.  However, some if they do do a test it would most likely be urine.  However, pot leaves the system after a matter of 2 weeks I believe.  And you do not have to take the test until 3 months after you arrive.  It is best that you quite now however... just in case.

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          1. 2/3/2009 Mars wrote:
            i am also due to start my teaching job in south korea on march 1st. the director of my school said that i will have to be tested for illegal drugs and hiv upon arrival, and that if i tested positive i would be sent home. she said that this has nothing to with her, it's immigration. so as of right now, what drugs are the really testing for? i've smoked pot almost every day for several years but quit on dec. 1 to give my body three months to get it out of my system.......do they still test for pot or no???
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            1. 2/3/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
              If you have been clean from pot for over a month, you are 99% from what I have read.  You can read more from: http://pg.webring.com/members/blog/dsasser/ or do a google search for "Marijuana detox"

              But Korea currently does not do a Marijuana test and your physical test does not have to be for up to 3 months on arrival.  You are fine...  But if you worry, you may want to go to your local hospital and ask to have a test.  I think there are even test kits that you can buy to test yourself.  That may give you some peace of mind.

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  • 1/5/2009 john wrote:
    I wanted to take a xanax on the flight over there so that I could just sleep through the whole thing. Would this be a problem in the drug test?
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    1. 1/5/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      I am not familiar with 'xanax' however, I don't think that it will show up on any drug tests, especially if they do not test you for up to 3 months on arrival.  It is best to check at the pharmacy or your doctor first to see if it is banned in any country or if it contains any questionable substances.  They do not test you on arrival in Korea... and they do not test for much when they do test you.  I would not sweat it.

      Good luck

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  • 2/8/2009 Jon wrote:
    It's been almost a year since this article was published and I was wondering if the health test is still currently pot free?

    I'm suppose to leave for South Korea at the end of March but only recently quit smoking pot (Feb 4th) so that only gives me a little less than two months!!

    I will be fine if its a urine or blood test but if it's a hair test I don't think I'd pass and I really don't want to be deported back or worse...

    Do korean schools make you get a hair follicle drug tests (even if it's still dropped by immigrations)???

    Please respond thanks!
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    1. 2/8/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Hay Jon.  It seems that soooo many teachers are worried about the medical test.  You are right that the changes were made such a long time ago, but a few facts still remain.
      1.  Most hospitals do not have the resources to do a pot test (they test for other narcotics though), especially a DNA test from your hair.
      2.  Pot leaves your system after about a month so do not worry... about that.  You have been off the pot for 1 month and you have over a month to go before you leave, and you probably will not be examined for a few weeks.  Its not like they are going to drag you directly from the airport to the hospital.
      3.  Each hospital is different however.  If they have the resources to test for pot, they just might.  But I would not sweat it.  When the law first began there was only one hospital that could do the testing in all of Seoul. 
      4.  If it truly worries you, why not get one of the 'self test kits'  Do a google search for them.  or go to your local doctor to find out.  If you are worried about your hair ... get a haircut ... just to ease your night sleep

      Really I would not worry though.  I have yet to hear of any deportation of pot smoking on the medical test.  It is the ones that get smoke it in the country that get deported.  If I hear of any new news on this matter... I will surely post it.

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      1. 2/16/2009 Kim Chee wrote:
        Much talk of pot but what about other common drugs such as ecstasy and cocaine?
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        1. 2/16/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
          Thanks for the comment. 

          Yes, in fact Korea does test for other drugs.  Most hospitals will give you a blood and urine test.  However, what they are testing for is a mystery.  I attempted to search for the results, but found nothing.  However, I do have a inclination that the testing varies from one hospital to another depending on what resources they have, what the doctor wants to test for and what naturally shows up on the tests.  I would imagine narcotics like cocaine would be very easy to test.  Ecstasy was (perhaps still is) becoming quite popular with some Koreans, so many hospitals are probably ready to test for them.

          I tried to find a standard medical form for the doctor to fill out, but was unsuccessful.  There is a 'self check' form, that is quite pointless.  There is a test that public school teachers take, but that is now different for foreign teachers.

          This is just speculation.  To resolve your questions it is best probably to call to the hospitals and ask.  I am not sure what the immigration might say if you ask them... drugs are drugs... we check all lol.  But I personally would stay away from the cocaine regardless of the tests in Korea.

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      2. 7/7/2010 Deported wrote:
        WRONG DAVE, WRONG!
        I WAS JUST DEPORTED ON JUNE 18TH 2010 BECAUSE I FAILED THE CANNABINOID TEST.
        IF YOU ARE A TEACHER ABOUT TO GO OVER THERE AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT FAILING YOUR TEST ONCE YOU GET THERE- BUY A SELF-TEST KIT AND DO IT AT HOME BEFORE YOU GO. IF YOU FAIL, THEN JUST WAIT!
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  • 2/22/2009 Daejeon wrote:
    Thanks for the valuable and up to date info. on the drug testing. I moved to Korea in 2005 and didn't hav to take a drug test (it was before the law came into effect)

    I am returning this summer and am glad I came upon this forum..thanks everyone!
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  • 2/25/2009 david wrote:
    Well the assumption weed leaves your system in a month is not entirely true. there is no real way of telling (so many factors) but basically if you smoke on a regular basis its about a month. keep it up and smoke more = can reach 90days for JUST urine testing.
    Hair testing is a whole another story. THC can be traced in hair for a VERY VERY long time.

    if that is the case........uh oh and also hair testing is very expensive too. which is why most businesses in america dont even do.

    how sad people have to be deported for a harmless drug that is in the works of being fully legalized (already legal in cali w/ a med card).

    If you can confirm they do a hair test...then maybe ill plan my trip for another year ..
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    1. 2/25/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Thanks for that information Dave.  In my research, I read that it was about a month... but I was not able to find any proof or evidence.  There is no way that Korea does DNA testing for each foreign teacher.  Especially since the medical exam costs under $100.  They do take your urine... but as was written in the article... they do NOT test for THC anymore.  I have not heard any news that it has changed back.  But the fact of the matter remains, very few hospitals have the resources to actually test for THC.  The government is too busy testing for diseases and more threatening drugs. 

      I have not heard of anyone (yet) being deported for failing the drug test.  I have heard of many many many people being caught with drugs while in Korea, and deported.  But lets face it.  When in Korea... you can not do anything right.  You can not drink... but you can not not drink.  You can not date... but you can not not date.  You... I can go on with this list for a long time.

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  • 3/17/2009 I have first hand experience wrote:
    I recently went over to south korea to work as an english teacher. I arrived feb-19-2009. We teachers were told during our 5 day orientation that during the medical test for our alien registration card, that the medical facilities are not suppose to test for weed. Just tell you co-teacher to tell the lab tech's to not test for it if we think we still are little dirty. The co-teacher should make this a point to the lab tech's.

    The next day I arrived in my city (Wonju), the my co-teacher stated that tomorrow we were going to the hospital to do the medical exam.

    At Wonju University's medical lab, I told the co-teacher that i should not me for majuhana to tell the lab tech's to not include that test. Should now could not understand why i was making this request. so without devualging my little secret. I did the urine, blood and x-ray. I had to pay for it out of pocket (51.30 us dollars).

    By the end of the day... that day i was notified by my co-teacher that i failed the test. I tested positive for marijuana in my blood.

    I was hired by a the biggest english teaching placement firm in S.Korea (EPIK). The heads in charge said it would be best if i leave and come back later if i want that they were not going to report this to immigration for my sake. They will cancel my visa as soon as they know i have left the country

    I interviewed with a hagwon before I left and the owner wanted to hire me for the April 1st. I declined the position, (Yeah i know about the visa run to japan, the owner was willing to pay for that as well) However, because the position was so far off... i have my cat with me as well. the hagwon owner stated i could stay with her until the position started but my cat could not come. that meant 5 weeks in an animal border facility. Which my cat was during my orientation ( I lost it being that far from my loved one).

    My question is how do i check my visa status for re-entry into south korea? If i wanted to go back. To make sure the agreement was honored as far as not reporting my positive drug screen to immigration. I left March 3, 2009.
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    1. 3/17/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Wow!!!  you got quite a bad situation.  I am really surprised that you tested positive seeing that it has been 2 months first of all.  Second, I think it is strange that they included the marijuana on the test... even if they requested it not be on it (most hospitals are not prepared for the exam... they must not like foreigners).  Third, I am surprised that the 'heads; found out about your situation, your medical information should have been confidential. 

      I believe that if your information of testing positive for drugs was reported to immigration, you would have had a notice to leave the country (from immigration), or you would have been escorted to an immigration holding facility.  I believe immigration has know idea that you failed... after all you must give the medical form to immigration.  I hope you still have it, it is your personal information, your school should NOT keep it. 

      I think the only problem you may have is receiving a new E2 visa because you left your before the end of your contract.  Did you leave EPIC on a good note?  Did they give you a release letter?  If not you should request it.  Just a note saying that you are freed from your contract to seek new employment in the country.  If you go for another interview (an immigration interview) they may ask if you were in Korea before and why did you leave your previous contract....  a potentially dangerous question that could lead to trouble.... you may want to consider this.

      In terms of failing your medical... This is why I did the test alone and not with my school.  The test results should be yours and yours alone.  You should personally hand it into immigration.  If you fail... you still have another 2 months to be retested (as long as you failed due to a reasonable ailment).  And most of all, you get to pick the hospital and do your own research. 

      Wonju University's medical lab was wrong to do what they did.  I advise anyone wishing to get the medical done, do not go there.  Not because you may or may not fail because of drugs, but rather they did not respect the requirements.  Your co-teacher IS an English teacher she should have understood your request not to test for the drug... she needs to go back to school again.  There is know way that the hospital should call your co-teacher and then she calls you that you failed.... that is just wrong... wrong wrong wrong wrong.  You and you alone should be informed why you failed.  It is your decision to express that with your school or immigration.  It is your decision to retake the exam at a different location.

      I think you should have contacted EFL Law before you left to ask for assistance.

      http://www.efl-law.com/

      This should not have happened.  I am sorry that you had to go through with it.

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  • 3/18/2009 concerned new lad wrote:
    Hi and thanks.

    Last weekend I did some unusual heavy partying [3-4 days ago]. I had a whole spliff on Fri eve, [not mine, so unsure of strength and if really skunk or what] next day [Sat eve] had half an ecstacy tablet.

    I am not a regular user. Historically had the odd tokes on spliffs months ago and the odd E tablet here and there 1-2 years ago. Generally, and now on, I steer away from drugs.

    I am average build and fairly fit generally. I hope I will be clear on tests by time due to arrive in Korea in mid April, I expect.

    Seems limited info on ecstacy and urine/blood/hair tests on these sorts of blogs but fair bit on weed.

    Hopefully in Incheon, if I accept contract there, I will be OK for passing any urine, blood, hair tests? Wonju, from reading previous posts sounds like a one-off!?

    Any advice welcomed. Fairly concerned, should I be concerned?

    Thanks v much.
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    1. 3/18/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Thanks for the comment

      I am not the avid drug knowledge bank... it is probably best to speak to a doctor on this one, but I did do some research for you. 

      Yes, Korea would be doing an E-test for two reasons.  One, E is one of the drugs that can be found in Korea.  Two, E may contain several other drugs cut into it.

      Doing some research the about drug testing (a simple website is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_test)

      Within 48 hours the drug should be diminished to only 1% and completely out of your system within a week... however, that is a theoretical thing.  E is cut with other drugs... how long it leaves is really unknown.  A month should be good so long as you do not get a DNA test.  Korea does not do a hair analysis, that is time consuming and expensive.  A $50 exam would not cover the expense.

      However, just like the poor man before you, he tested positive for Cannabis.  Cannabis should leave your system within a month if you are an occasional user... 2 months should be sufficient.   But he still tested positive (personally I think something is up with that).

      E is no excuse.  It is on the drug test, and you can not ask to be removed.  Perhaps you can go to the doctor and ask to be tested to see if it shows before you go.  Another important piece of information, you have 3 months to be tested for the immigration.  However, you need a medical for the school too if you are working for a public school.  When your school asks you to go... just say give me the paperwork and I will get it done myself.  I do not like going to the hospital with others.  That way if you fail the test, you and you alone will know.  Not the entire school board. 



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  • 3/18/2009 I have first hand experience wrote:
    I know what a series of unfortunate events. Im blessed and favored dispite this situation. the co-teacher i was assigned to was going on vacation, so they assigned me a co-teacher who in a few days was leaving for the states to strenthen her english. That co-teacher stated she never been in a situation like this before and didnt know what to do. So she told the Prinicipal and the Vice-prin. The western english teacher they had me staying with until they the school came up with accomodations, was shocked the circumstances and contacted the supervisor for the Wonju teachers, He said it was out of his hands b/c he princ and v.p already knew. He would pass the information along to the supervisor of the P.O.E. The Supervisor stated to "just leave and come back later ". I mentioned to her "what if i found a job before i left... She said that they would call her to ask about the visa/contract I had with EPIK and she would have to tell the truth. So it would be best for me to leave and come back at another time, so It would look like I cancelled the contract for personel reasons.

    I didnt have a face to face interview with the korean consulate over here in the states for my visa, everything was done through the mail.

    I will request that letter of release for my own sake.

    I went to the efl-law.com website.
    How do I contact someone?
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  • 3/18/2009 I have first hand experience wrote:
    Oh Yeah! I ask repeatly to be retested b/c of the NyQuil I had been taking for the last three day, due to serious chest and sinus congestion from the cold mountainous weather. That this could be a false/positive from the NyQuil. I was told that these test were full proof that the marijuana was found in my blood not my urine. I was told that the test, tests specifically for THC and that traces was found in my blood.

    At Wonju University's medical lab, the urine is left in the bathroom on a cart with holes in it to place the cup of uncovered urine. Where anybody could switch specimens or your specimen could get contaminated. This was all next to the cleaning lady's cart (broom, mop, cleaning supplies and garbage). All in the public bathroom next to the testing lab. There is no supervision during this process. However when I told the co-teacher I wanted to retest, she scheduled another retesting with the lab, they said this time it would have to be supervised, all retest all supervised at the University's lab. As I mentioned earlier i was strongly urged by the Head Supervisor of the POE for EPIK to not retest b/c even if it does come out negative that the principle, v-p and school knows and drug use weather found innocent is very serious issue in S. Korea thats not like america... glorified.

    Forgot to add that point about asking to be retested.
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    1. 3/18/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Hi, I believe your are right that once your principal and other authorities realize that you have done drugs... it is time to go.  If the media ever caught on that you failed, you would become another sacrificial lamb.  It is actually best not to even let the members of the school know that your are coming back to Korea.  You do not want others to know your past history.

      But even then, your situation is quite unusual.  And contamination and 100% certainty!!!  There was no DNA test, and it was 2 months since your last weekend only smoking...  Something is not smelling right.  But that is a whole different topic in Korea.  The best thing to do is keep your story quiet... like it never happened. 

      The immigration interviews are hit and miss.   Sometimes they require them and sometimes not.  But if they do, one of the questions is going to be, why did you leave your previous contract so early.  I suppose you can say for personal reasons I wish not to talk about... not sure if that is acceptable or not... but saying the blunt truth will not work.  Hopefully you will not be asked into the interview.

      You should tell your story on EFL Law's forums:

      http://efl-law.com/globalforum/index.php

      I think that is the best way to get legal advice. 

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  • 4/20/2009 Health Statement wrote:
    I am not planning on leaving for Korea for another 3 months or so, but I have routinely smoked marijuana over the past few years. I am not too worried about testing positive as it will be out of my system by the time I get tested. However, what would you recommend I put on the E2 Applicant's Health Statement in regards to my usage of narcotics? I would rather not lie ... but I understand this is something I will most likely need to do. Technically marijuana is not a narcotic, so I guess I really wouldn't be lying after all.

    Thanks
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    1. 4/20/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      I am not suggesting to lie and I am not encouraging the use of pot in Korea.  However, do you think you will get the job if you put yes in the health form?  The answer is no, nobody will hire you.  And yes, marijuana is NOT a narcotic, so no you will not be lying, so indeed you answered your own question.  Just make sure when you go to get your health check to say no marijuana test... it is not required, but the hospital might check you regardless.  But typically 3 months is plenty of time to clean the system, but there are always the odd case that gets away. 

      Note: Narcotics, though the term is often used for most illegal drugs, it originated as a medical term for opium and opium derivatives.
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    2. 4/22/2009 I have first hand experience wrote:
      ummm technically is not a narcotic here in the states, but in S. Korea that Sugar Honey Ice Tea is a federal offense. You do not pass go, collect $200 straight to jail minimum 10 yrs. They do not play over there when it comes to weed.

      See here in the states its so widely used, talked about and advertised, one can almost forget its illegal. Its the opposite in S. Korea. They get drunk, thats their desginated drug of choice.

      Look put "NO" if you really want the job.

      Drink green tea and do a full body cleanse (walmart), for your peace- of -mind. Workout "sweat".

      No more smoking. Make that money.

      I might be back in sept as my visa is clear if i wanted to do so.

      Take care- real talk!
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  • 5/3/2009 jailtime? wrote:
    Hi, I'm absolutely shitting myself about this cannabis test, as although it'll be at least 6 weeks before I leave, and I know I have up to 3 months to have the test after I arrive, I only quit this weekend..

    In the extremely unfortunate circumstance that they test me for cannabis and it is still in my blood stream, is there any chance I could be arrested and imprisoned, or is deportation the worst that could happen?

    your answer really affects my decision.. and I'm supposed to submit my contract tomorrow, so a quick reply would be extremely helpful..
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    1. 5/3/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      arrested? imprisoned??  oh my... for testing positive more cannabis?  no...  If you bring it into the country perhaps... but not for testing positive.  IF they test you for it... and you test positive... perhaps the school will not hire you.  But... the fact of the matter, you should not be tested for cannabis.  You should say no to the cannabis test.  Cannabis or no cannabis it was taken of the test and most hospitals do not have the resources.  Who ever takes you for you medical test say "no cannabis test please."

      It is not illegal to test positive for cannabis in your system...  They are not going to arrest you for that...  Public schools will probably not hire you and talk bad about you too within the system.  A private school would probably be more quiet and just get you to test again.  But the fact of the matter... you should not have to test.  You should not have to worry... just say no to the test. 

      Other than that drink your green tea and push it out of your system because it is always to good to have a clean system for any health test. 

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      1. 6/1/2009 shane wrote:
        I know the THC test has been removed by immigration but in the case a hospital does test it, is it more likely to be a urine or a blood test for THC, or even both.
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      2. 6/13/2009 GTPBBRD wrote:
        I certainly don't mean to be a nay-sayer but I am in a similar predicament. I am not at all a regular user, however, I did use pot about three weeks ago at my brothers college grad and I will be leaving for Daejeon in 60+ days. This article from firsthand experience seems to say otherwise about testing positive and arrests. I'm not sure if it is different because he had been in Korea for a while, but this certainly is not something I'd want to experience, especially since I am not a drug abuser and did not use in Korea.

        http://www.altweeklies.com/news/seoul_survivor_busted_for_dope_in_south_korea/Story?oid=143682
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  • 5/15/2009 james wrote:
    Ok folks, the whole marijuana thing is overblown. If you have been clean for a month, then there's a very good chance you pass. If you are overweight, dont exercise, and dont drink a lot of water than it might stay in your system longer. For an active athletic person its usually always less than a month for a pee test. If you are that worried about it just purchase a home drug test kit before you leave and see the results.
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  • 7/30/2009 Billy wrote:
    Does anyone know the current situation on this issue? Any legitimate responses would be greatly appreciated
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    1. 7/30/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Visa issues are still the same in Korea... no changes made.  Just makes sure you request no marijuana (THC) on the medical - Some hospitals automatically check foreigners for this.  Insure the results go first to you rather than your school.  You still 90 days for your medical exam (to get your ARC - alien registration card), you can always take the test again if you fail, so long as the results do not get into the hands of your school. 

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      1. 7/31/2009 Billy wrote:
        I already took the test and I did not request no marijuana nor did I request for the information to come directly to me (the hospital staff spoke no English at all). They told me to come back about 5 days after the test. Do you think they will automatically send the information to my school or will they wait to give it to me first? Should I go back early and try to make these requests? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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        1. 7/31/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
          I would assume that it would go to who ever picks it up in five days.  In some cases the hospital collects the mailing address of the school, in which the results get mailed to them.  I am assuming that you did not give the school details correct?  It also sounds like you went alone... that is a good move.  In the cases that I have heard that the teacher ran into some bad luck are when they go with their co-teacher, and the teacher tells the hospital to send the results directly to the school or she would pick them up herself (I say she because in all three cases it was a female co-teacher).  If you did not give them your school information, they can not send it to your school.

          It also sounds like you are in a smaller city or at a smaller hospital - "the hospital staff spoke no English at all".  Smaller hospitals generally do not have the equipment to test for THC.  But if they do come back and it says that you have it in you, just go to another hospital and request for no marijuana in the test.  But I think you are quite safe.  Let me know the results.

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      2. 10/22/2009 rob wrote:
        I was wondering if you could tell me the names of the hospitals in Seoul that have the facilities to test for THC. I know that Seoul University Hospital in Hyewha near Dongdaemun don't test for it as they have said. However being a major hospital surely that would have the resources to do it. Any useful info would be much appreciated. Thanks
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        1. 10/22/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
          There is no way to know for sure.  The THC test is NOT standard and not a requirement.  If you do manage to find a place that does test for THC, it is probably suggested by the doctor and not regular thing.  5 years ago, there was only a hand full of places that could check.  Now it seems there are more.  The surest bet is to go with a Korean friend and specifically ask and insure that it is left off the test.

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          1. 10/23/2009 rob wrote:
            Thanks for your reply.

            Just one more thing I found out that the TPBE test also tests for caffeine.(???) This came straight from a hospitals website.

            Why would they do that and if your an avid coffee drinker and it comes up positive what does that mean? Do they reject you for one too many double mocha expresso cafe lattes with a sprinkle of vanilla nutmeg?
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            1. 10/23/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
              If caffeine was an illegal substance, I think I would have been deported ages ago.  A matter of fact I think 99% of teachers are avid coffee drinkers, especially when there are those instant coffee makers on every corner of the street.  They may test for the substance, however, you can not fail the test if you test positive.  It is not illegal and has no baring on the life of a teaching, and the immigration has no business knowing.  I would not worry about quitting your coffee habits.

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  • 8/1/2009 nameofperson wrote:
    I'm leaving for Korea in one week. Here's my drug issue.

    Due to a strange ear condition I'm prescribed Vicodine whenever I fly on an airplane. My eustation tubes can't regulate pressure correctly which causes horrible pain upon descent.

    Taking these pills for my Korean flight worries me because, though legally prescribed to me, Vicodine is a true narcotic. By this I mean it's derived from opium and therefore shows up in drug tests as such. Another drug in this classification is heroin.

    My nightmare scenario is that I arrive in Korea, take the drug test and fail for showing positive for heroin/opium/morphine.

    I suppose I could clear this up ahead of time during the visa interview by letting them know I'm prescribed this medication. The problem with this is that I've already checked "no" to the question of meds. I didn't want to tell them I took a narcotic pain killer. I wasn't sure if this would go over well.

    So what do you think? do I have something to worry about?
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    1. 8/1/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Vicodine is that the same as Vicodin? 

      Vicodin:  "This medication can cause you to have unusual results with certain urine tests. Tell any doctor who treats you that you are using Vicodin." But the real question... how long does it stay in your system for.  It is not like you are going to the doctor directly from your flight.

      In my research I did find one thing in Wiki Answers that might help you out:
      How long does vicodin show up in urine drug screens?
      But this is not 100% factual.

      There are three things that you should do

      1. contact the FDA or something like that and ask how long does it take for the drug to leave your system to take a blood and urine test.
      2. contact your doctor and ask if there is an alternative that will not cause problems with the health check
      3. When you arrive in Korea sit down with your school and explain to them how long it will take the medication to leave your system.  There is no hurry to take the test.  (you have 90 days to be exact to receive your ARC

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  • 8/3/2009 Kirsten wrote:
    I'm applying to teach in south korea, but am on medication for depression. if i lie on the e2 medical application form, what are the possible consequences?
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    1. 8/3/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      consequences one: They never find out.

      consequences two: They find out.

      The question is most likely: "Have you ever received treatment for Mental/ Neurotic/ Emotional Disorder?"  If you lie, it is a breach of contract, they are trying to maintain a professional standard.  I do not know what drug you are on, for what reasons, and how extreme.  I can tell you one thing, if you go to Korea you may find it extremely difficult to receive your medication.  I would be totally honest.  Let them know your condition and to what extent it is... you are applying to a professional job that deals with children.  Let the powers that be know about you.

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  • 8/6/2009 kirsten wrote:
    Thanks for your reply. The thing is that its actually not an issue in my life-I'm not depressed. I'm on medication and as long as I take it there's no problems. I've spoken to professionals and they all agree that i'm perfectly functioning and stable. Can get put in jail or get a criminal record for lying in the contract or anything like that, because it is fraud.. Before I do anything, I want to know all the possible consequences so that I can make a somewhat informed decision.
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    1. 8/6/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      hmmmm tough questions because I have not heard anybody with the problem before.  I would say if you say on the form that you are taking 'depression medication'  the chances are you will not be hired, and if you are 'hired' immigration will be looking at you, and for the medical exam you will have to say what you are taking, the doctor would probably look twice. 

      Now, are you perfectly functional and stable as you say, only when you are on the medication?  Or can you go off it and be stable?  That is what the Koreans are going to look at.  Korea has a different outlook on these kinda things.  They are going to see these meds as a handicap and a risk... not me that is Korea. 

      I would not lie for your medication, not out of fear of jail or what not, but because I am an honest person... but that is your choice. 

      BUT if you did lie, and get caught, assuming that you are already hired and working, you would just get fired (perhaps not even that - Koreans always lie about those kind of things).  It is not immigration business and it is not illegal to be on medication in Korea. 

      But in worse case situation, I think you would be treated the same as if you were teaching illegally (that is assuming that your school reports you to immigration for lieing on your forms).  You would be brought into a holding facility and deported.  You would probably have to pay for the flight with your own money.  You might be held in some 'facility' for up to a week maybe two.  Almost the same as if you were caught smoking weed... but I really do not think this would happen.

      I think the biggest issue is yourself.  Are you dependant on this medication?  If yes, is it available in Korea?  If it is not, can you bring 1 year supply with you?  I would not send refills through the mail system - could lead to problems. 

      Now the question on the form is probably somthing like: "Have you ever been treated by a doctor for any mental, emotional, or nervous disorder?  " and then explain with a doctors note.

      What I would do if I were you would be to make a new email address (not your full name) and use a pen name rather than your real name and email (or call) a recruiter.  Tell the recruiter that you wish to come to Korea, but you are concerned about your meds.  Give the name of the medication to the recruiter and they can do the research for you.  In the mean time, I would have a doctor write up a report for you that states what the drug is, why you take it, and whether or not he endorses you going to Korea.

      I hope that helps



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  • 8/11/2009 Soontobe wrote:
    Hullo all,

    I was wondering if anyone had first-hand experience with the medical test in Yangyang, where I will soon be arriving, and if the cannabinoid test will be included. I'm thinking chances are less likely, as it seems to be a small place.
    Also, I have an eye condition called episcleritis, that has developed after I applied and submitted the self-health check. It is non contagious, and I have prescription eyedrops for it, and my doctor says that it will clear up without becoming a serious disease or anything. This will not be cause for them to fail me on the medical will it? I mean, we don't need to be in 100% perfect health?

    Finally, has anyone had experience with simply refusing the THC test, with EPIK as the employer?
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    1. 8/11/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Yangyang - I am not sure where or what hospital you will use for the health check, but I highly doubt they have the facilities to even check for everything there.  But, it is always best to leave it off the medical check up.  A hospital can not test for something that you do not give permission for.  You do not "refuse" the test because it is not on the test.  You ask to make sure that they do not include it.  I worked for EPIK for 2 years, but the health check for immigration is the same for all teachers (now).  I would not stress too much about it.  But as I say to all teachers, don't do it in Korea and give yourself some time before you take the test.  normally THC is cleared out of your system in a matter of weeks...

      Now the eye thing... I would not worry about that.  Bring enough eye drops with you to make sure that the problem is all healed when you are in Korea - you might have problems finding the same medication and dosage in Korea.  When they say 'contagious' on the health form I think they have other things in mind.  However, it is best to just wait for your eyes to heal before going to get the health check... remember you have 90 days to get it done.  Just tell your co-teacher that you want to wait for your eyes to heal.  It's not like they are brining you directly to the hospital from the airport.  But even if you were, just tell the doctor about your eyes.  No problems... good luck

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  • 8/11/2009 Julie wrote:
    Hello there,
    I'm scheduled to leave for South Korea on Aug. 30. I'll be living in Incheon and will be having my medical examination over there. I'm slightly concerned regarding the cannabis testing. I've only smoked twice in my life; First time was New years of this year and the last time was July 19. I only took two hits and I haven't done anything since then. I'm not worried about the other drug tests since I don't touch any other drugs. I guess I'm just being paranoid, but I've been drinking cranberry juice like crazy. Since I'm not a regular smoker, will traces of marijuana be out of my system by the time I have to leave? Looking forward to hearing from you.
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    1. 8/11/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      I don't think you have anything to worry about.  that is plenty of time for the drug to leave your system.  Two 'hits' is probably already out of your system.  And they should not be testing you for pot anyway.  I would not worry a bit... even if they do do the test which they shouldn't.  

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  • 8/13/2009 Dazza wrote:
    I had some weed last week and I am due in Korea in about 2 weeks. I have been reading alot of conflicting stories on here and all over the net.

    What I am concerned about is being deported. If I request my own medical, ask to exclude the marajuana test I will be safe?
    The school can still ask for you to be drug free?
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    1. 8/14/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      What do you mean to be "drug free"?

      A) It is NOT a school requirement for you to take the medical exam, it is a government requirement for your visa. 

      The government does NOT require a marijuana test anymore for the visa. 

      equals

      C) Therefore you do not need to have a marijuana test on the medical exam. 

      A+B=C

      If they do a marijuana test for there "standard foreigner medical exam" at the hospital, you can ask for it to be taken off.  From what I understand a hospital may not test you for something that you do not give them permission to, I believe that is a right in most democratic nations. 

      If it is a "standard" at the hospital that you go to, it is assumed that you should know (but because we do not read Korean it may be difficult to know - ignorance is no excuse) and they will test you.  However, MOST hospitals will not have it on the exam, but some do.  It is best (if you are in doubt) to just ask for it to be removed from you exam.

      Now some facts

      1. Depending on the person in takes 3 to 30 days for it to leave your system (for the urine test).  This depends on your body size, metabolism, diet, fat (THC is stored in you fat cells), and how often you smoke.

      2. For a $50 medical exam, Korean hospitals are NOT going to do an expensive DNA test.  If you opt for the THC test, it would be by urine. 

      3. It is not breaking the law to test positive for THC.  It means you failed the exam.  It is illegal to DO drugs in Korea, they need to prove that you smoked it here.  You will not be deported, just jobless if your school knows.

      4.  Failing the exam (any exam) is an embarrassment.  If someone that you work with is with you or receives your results (if you fail) it shames you and the school.  That is why it is best to do it apart from your school.  If the school knows you "failed," they will most likely fire you.  They MAY also send your name to immigration and blacklist you on some websites.  You may have problems getting another teaching job in Korea in the future.  There are some exceptions: if you have a major contagious disease, expect to be isolated from the general population, and deported (TB, HIV... H1N1 you just get quarantined).  I know that this was suppose to have changed, but... this is Korea.

      5. If you are coming to Korea or any country in Asia, don't do pot (or any other drug for that matter).  Just as a side note, it is not Korea, but close: an English teacher from Canada faces the death penalty in Taiwan for smuggling marijuana and ecstasy.  THAT IS THE DEATH PENALTY PEOPLE!!  There was another poor man entering the UAE, unfortunately he must have stepped on an old joint laying on the ground.  When he past through customs, the dog sniffed him out.  He was arrested and put in jail (I think he was deported after some time in the slammer, but I never did hear the ending).  Keep away from the wacky tobacky people if you are planning to come, even if they do not do the test... don't mean to scare you either, Korea will not put you on death row if you are caught.

      6.  There is a kit that you can get that you yourself can test yourself, if you really want to know.

      7.  There are some diets and supplements that you can take to reduce your levels faster.  Just do a Google search for "marijuana body cleansing"

      8.  Immigration (not your school) requires you to take the test WITHIN 90 days (NINETY)... enough time for just about anything to clear your system.  Use some of those days people!!!  If your school
      insists that you take the test ASAP... you have the right to say no.  It is not in your contract when you take the test (maybe your school does, but non of mine ever did).  It does not say that your BODY belongs to your school.  Wait 2 or 3 weeks.  or insists back to your school that you do it ON YOUR OWN then procrastinate "the results are in the mail" or "I want to wait till after my cold goes away, cough cough".  I don't know about you, but if I went for a job in Canada and my boss went with me to the doctors...  You are an adult, capable of making your up your own mind.  When in Korea you should put your foot down sometimes.  Make them know you are a real human being.  I think most of us fist came to Korea to be independent in some way shape or form, prove it.

      Good luck.


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  • 9/8/2009 OneTimeOnly wrote:
    Thank-you ESL Daily for your input above. You have provided concise information regarding drug testing in Korea and have helped to ease my mind in regards to THC - of which I am a casual smoker. I haven't smoked pot since the end of August and I don't plan to leave for Korea until mid November to Early December (2.5-3 months of abstinance prior to leaving).

    What I am worried about is my 'one time only' experimentation with cocaine (honest to God!). This occured on Saturday Aug 22nd and it was my first and last time trying the drug. It has only been since this indescretion, that I have realized that there is drug testing required in order to obtain an E2 Visa. I understand that there is a grace period of up to 90 days, provided that my contract does not bind me to have it done sooner (a contract that I would never sign - obviously).

    My question(s:

    Would you recommend that I wait until December to depart for Korea, thus giving me over 3 months for the THC/Cocaine to pass through my system?

    Would you recommend that I take a detox for these drugs to further increase the chances of flushing these toxins from my system within the next 3 months?

    Would you also recommend that I have a medical practicioner complete a blood test for me to determine whether there are any traces of these two drugs in my system?

    I am really intersted in teaching english in Korea and have taken a leave from my workplace for the next year as of November 1. I really do not want to have any issues upon my application for an E2 Visa in Korea and I definitely do not want to have my Visa revoked for something I did once in my life. If necessary, I will postpone my departure so that I can maximize my chances of being able to teach for 1 year in Korea. Your thougths are welcome. Thanks
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    1. 9/8/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Actually cocaine leaves your system faster than THC: "Benzoylecgonine has a longer biological half-life (5-8 hours) than cocaine (0.5-1.5 hours) and can generally be detected for 24-80 hours after cocaine use or exposure. " Benzoylecgonineis what they test for while doing a urine test rather than Cocaine itself.  For casual doers it will leave your system after two days, for habitual users maybe a week.  However, I read one site that said you should leave up to 3 weeks.  I think THC is stored in your fat cells, that is why it remains longer... but that is just a guess.

      Very interesting read on Wiki Answers:
      http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Will_an_urine_test_for_cocaine_show_positive_ten_days_after_cocaine_usage

      In my opinion, I would do a 'self test' now to see if you can find traces.  If you can not find anything now, you will sleep better at night.

      And make sure you stay away from that stuff during your remaining time at your home.

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      1. 9/8/2009 OneTimeOnly wrote:
        Thank-you so much! You have definitely put my mind at ease and I feel that I will sleep better tonight knowing that scientific information. It is really hard to find this information on-line. I will do my due diligence to make sure that there are no traces in my system with much time to spare prior to my 'hopeful' departure.

        Thanks again for all of your help...I am definitely DONE with my experimentation phase!

        All the best~
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  • 9/8/2009 OneTimeOnly wrote:
    Found another interesting read:
    http://www.idmu.co.uk/drugtestcan.htm
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    1. 9/8/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Thanks for the updates and the link.  The primary concern that I have as an educator is that your main concern now should be for your students.  Anything that hinders your ability as a teacher and could be considered as a bad influence on your students is a serious problem.  Stay clean and try to be a role model for your students.  You may feel like an underdog with your Korean peers, but try to over look that and realize that your students are looking up to you more than they are looking up to the Korean teachers.  You are noticed and you should help your students over come cultural 'differences'.  Try your best to be a positive influence on the minds of your students.

      Good luck!!!

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  • 9/9/2009 altruistic wrote:
    I am a teacher who recently arrived in S.Korea to teach and I have smoked a bit of weed in my time. I smoked a half a joint 2 weeks before I left for my post here and have been freaked out ever since about getting tested and being deported. Such shame!!!

    Anyways, after much research about how long it stays in your blood stream online, and getting 40 diff opinions I decided enough was enough and asked my brother back home to call the national drug abuse centre.

    He spoke to the head of the centre and she said:

    1. Marijuana stays in your blood stream for about 6-10 weeks. 10 weeks being for the regular user who uses every day and for an extended period of time.
    For those with a less frequent habit about 6-8 weeks is the length of time it stays in there.

    2. Other drugs such as cocaine and ecstasy are metabolised much quicker and won't show up in blood after a week sometimes less. However, they might show up in urine for up to 21 days!!

    I thought I would post this cos I know what it is like to have sleepless nights at the thought of being black listed and deported.

    I go for my test in 3 days...wish me luck...and oh, even tho it has been 7 weeks for me I will still be drinking my vinegar, drinking sweetened juice on the day and diluting just a bit with some water consumption..just to be safe!!

    As I say, hold thumbs...will let you all know how it turns out!!
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  • 9/27/2009 Dave wrote:
    If I had TB as a kid over 20 years ago & test positive, will I be denied the E2 visa to teach English in Korea? Should I go to my regular doctor in U.S. to see what the test results would come up first before wasting any time processing any paperwork to work in Korea?
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    1. 9/27/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      That is very good question, in which I have no answer at this time.  Let me do a little research for you and get back.  Rather than showing up to your doctors, perhaps there are some medical phone lines that you can call to inquire.  I will get back to you when I know more.

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      1. 9/28/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
        Not sure how they test for TB in Korea, but I would assume that they do the skin test and if the immune response occurs they will follow up with more tests.  Now because you had it in the past you would show positive.  But I really do not know how they test and you should consult a doctor about this and after write a follow up comment for our readers.  Source:
        The tuberculosis skin test (also known as the tuberculin test or PPD test) is a test used to determine if someone has developed an immune response to the bacterium that causes tuberculosis (T. This response can occur if someone currently has TB, if they were exposed to it in the past, or if they received the BCG vaccine against TB (which is not performed in the U.S.). - http://www.medicinenet.com/tuberculosis_skin_test_ppd_skin_test/article.htm

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  • 12/17/2009 Spliff_Lee wrote:
    Do they give you a std check in the medical check or do they just check for hiv/aids, tb and drugs.
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    1. 12/17/2009 ESL Daily wrote:
      Good question.  This question is tough to answer because the extent of the checks vary from location to location.  The medical form requires the medical to include major infectious diseases (when it comes to STDs).  However, the medical may go beyond what is written on the form (which is why some hospitals check for THC in foreigners).  There is a place for the doctor to write other comments about your health.  So if the doctor believes you to have a problem, he may write additional comments.  It is best to make the comment to the doctor to stick with the actual medical requirements, do not stray from the test.  However, Koreans are notorious for not sticking to things written on paper.

      On the other hand, it is up to the severity of your condition.  Is it life threatening?  Is it contagious?  Is it being treated... Your question is really difficult to answer, and I do not believe I am properly qualified to answer it.  A matter of fact it is impossible for anyone to answer the question, every situation will be different with every different hospital/doctor and every different condition.

      I hope I helped.

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  • 1/5/2010 contact wrote:
    I know this may be a bit redundant, but I'm still a little unclear in regards to the drug testing situation.

    Will a hair follicle test be run?

    I'm not worried about blood or urine testing, just the dreaded follicle test...particularly concerned about substances other than THC.

    Thanks! Hope to hear some feedback soon
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    1. 1/5/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      I have never heard of anyone getting more than a urine or blood test in Korea... but... Korea always surprises me...

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  • 1/7/2010 miscac wrote:
    Hi,

    I was reading through the comments for someone with the same problem as me. Kirsten wrote that she was on medication for depression and was wondering what would happen if she were to lie on her form.

    I have a slightly different version of that. About 1 1/2 years ago I suffered through an acute drug-induced psychosis, I used to smoke cannabis and it got the better of me. Long story short I overcame the illness, gave up cannabis and returned to normal life.

    Now 1 1/2 years on I am perfectly fine and stopped medication a long time ago (I was on medication for 6 months). I talked to my friend who's a qualified doctor about the question on the form (completely informally) and he said that if I was still on medication he would not advise it, however since it was a "once off" and due to stresses and other factors at the time he would just tick no on the form.

    I understand that Korea views mental illness completely differently and if I were to tick yes I am afraid that I would get tarred with the same brush.

    I am not under medication anymore and I am actually quite proud to have fought off mental illness. I have been told by my doctor(s) that if I never smoke pot again I will not have the same problem again (which isn't a problem when you had the experience I did.)

    I would like to know what the worst case scenario would be and what exactly deportation is about. Would this mean I would never be allowed back to Korea, or does it mean I am no longer allowed to travel?

    Thank you for your time reading this, it would be really appreciated if you could answer some of my questions.

    Kind regards,
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  • 1/7/2010 miscac wrote:
    Oh I forgot to ask, can they bring up your past medical records? I would like to know before I head off.
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    1. 1/7/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      Thanks for sharing your story.  First of all, your 'illness' happened quite some time ago, and the drugs would have been totally flushed out of your system.  Deportation... they can not deport you for doing drugs in a different country, especially if they can not prove it.  It is when they detect the drugs while you are in Korea.  They will deport you if they find you using or dealing drugs while IN the country... If you do show for drugs on the drug test you are not going to be arrested and sent home without packing your bags.  The worst is, you will NOT be permitted your E2 visa, and you will have something like 14 days to leave the country.  This will not show on your record, you will be able to return on a different visa right away.  Just catch a flight to Japan then back to Korea.  Whether or not this will show when you reapply for an E2 visa is a different story.  Perhaps immigration will red flag you, but I think most of the time issues like the are kept quiet and you are just let go rather than booted.

      I do not know what country you are from, but I know in Canada, your medical records are kept confidential.  This is the same in most Western countries.  This is one issue that I dislike about Korea, your medical information is not kept confidential and is not regarded as private... many stories on this one, but trying to keep this note short.  Korea can not access your medical history unless you give it too them... and I would advise against that.  In my humble opinion, I would keep the story quiet.

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      1. 1/8/2010 miscac wrote:
        Thanks for the reply, it was very informative. I am surprised to learn that medical information is not viewed as private in Korea that is completely different to what I am used to.

        I have completely stopped smoking cannabis because it just didn't agree with me, so passing the drug test isn't a worry for me.

        The main worry was my medical past and how it would overshadow any qualifications that I have achieved. It would be unfair to have worked so hard for most of my adult life only to be dogged with a past illness that I recovered from.

        Thank you so much for your quick reply, it is really appreciated.
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  • 1/14/2010 zippy wrote:
    what STDs are checked for? Whats considered contagious? STDs are transmitted SEXUALLY. I hardly foresee myself sleeping with a student and therefor any thing i may have is not contagious, and won't be tested for, right? They surly can't test for all STDs. So which ones? I read somewhere that 75% of all americans have some type of STD/I whether dangerous or not. So what are they testing for?
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    1. 1/15/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      HIV / AIDS is the only sexually transmitted disease they MUST test for according to the documentation.  They also test for TB.  Other than that, it is entirely up to the doctor for which other things to test for.  But in Korea, HIV / AIDS and TB are not permitted among foreigners... teachers, students or whatever.  In most cases you are deported without saying goodbye.  So if you have some small STD, I would not worry too much, but the medical will show hepatitis and such... most likely giving you a failing grade.  I had a buddy that was able to re-due the medical exam because it showed he had borderline hepatitis (he went drinking the night before).  He was not deported, however, the school was notified of his "condition" before HE knew the results... about a half dozen teachers notified him of his problem that morning before the principal had the pleasure of breaking the news... on that note - go alone to get the medical done and don't drink the night before.

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  • 1/17/2010 getting nervous wrote:
    So here is my situation,
    I have been a habitual pot smoker for several year, have quit as of jan 4 and am going to Masan for Feb 26th, I am doing as much as I can to get pot out of my system, but am still very worried about the testing, can you tell me anything about hospitals in Masan or Busan if thats where they make me go and get the test. Any info would be greatly appreciated
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    1. 1/17/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      Once again, it is not a requirement for pot to be on the test.  You can always ask for it to not be included.  Masan is not a huge city compared to Seoul, they probably do not have the facilities to do the check as much as Seoul.  However, it is still a coin toss.  But, your system is most likely clean from pot.  Why not go to your doctor and request a test from him?

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  • 1/21/2010 Matt wrote:
    Thanks ESL daily for the information. However, i am a bit worried as well. i am leaving to korea in a month and plan on giving a month to clean my system. I am going to take a test before i leave to be sure but are you sure it is ok that we deny the testing when we go in for our medical exam? wont the school be suspicious on why we asked to take it out of the test? Also, we can take the exam 90 days after arrival? can we refuse if the school forces us to? Thanks!
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    1. 1/22/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      Some times schools do not like it when you dictate your own priorities.  When you sign a contract, many Koreans take it as signing that part of your life to them.  With this in mind, make it to there advantage that you do not take the test as soon as you come.  Perhaps, you just finished up a medication from America that you are 'afraid' might have a problem with the test.  Or say that you want to wait till a 'cold' is flushed through your system.  If you flat out say you want to wait, without giving a ligit reason why (that helps the security of the school), the director may take this as an insult or a challenge to show his authority.  DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN!!  Anyway, take the test before you go, but even then I am sure you are fine.  Drink lots of green tea and flush out your system...

      Good luck

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      1. 1/24/2010 Matt wrote:
        Thanks ESL Daily for the reply. however, i was referring to asking not to test for THC. are you sure that it is safe to ask not to test for it?? wouldnt that bring a red flag if we ask not to test for it? so if i pass a urine test before i leave to korea then i should have nothing to worry about correct??
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        1. 1/24/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
          You are asking a question that implies many variables.  One, the test that your receive before you depart may not be as accurate (how ever the urine tests are quite straight forward from what I understand, Korea would only test the urine).  However, that would depend on the test... better to talk to the doctor about that one.  Two, the doctor in Korea SHOULD NOT test for THC any way, because it is not required.  If he does... well, he is... lets not get into that.  Three, getting your medical is personal, do not bring someone from work with you, go alone to avoid embarrassment.  Use this as an excuse, "I don't want my co-teacher to see me in a hospital gown" or something like that.  If you are at the hospital, then just simply ask the doctor to test for what is required, no more and no less.  A true doctor should respect that.  The only red flag you should worry about really is the one with your co-teacher.  You will not have to ever see the doctor again after your health check. 

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  • 1/26/2010 Sean wrote:
    the health form asks if you have been treated for any serious illness or injuries over the last five years.

    over a year ago i broke my femur (thigh bone) and received morphine and vicodin for dealing with the pain. all was prescribed by a doctor, but i don't want to put on the form that i have taken narcotics. should i let them know about my past medical history and do you think this will hinder my chances of getting an E2 visa?

    should i tell them about the injury and not about the morphine? at any rate its out of my system now, so is there away for them to find out about my injury/morphine use if i don't tell them?
    thanx for the forum, its been a very informative read. cheers
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    1. 1/27/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      Personally I would just say you treated a broken femur.  If they want to know the details they should then ask.  Morphine is a powerful drug, but not illegal when used properly, even in Korea.  If they want to know more details of the broken bone, send them the x-ray and pictures of the cast... If they ask about medication, tell them to speak to your doctor, you just took the pills.  Every Korean knows what that is like.  The doctor gives you 20 pills to take, and you dont know any of them.  Don't worry about it.
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  • 3/22/2010 bk4u wrote:
    I am probably going to be leaving for Korean in about 2 to 3 weeks. I have smoked pot a day ago on March 22, 2010.
    I have also taken some vicodin and xanax. I am going to go through the GEPIK program. I read an earlier entry about how they have separate tests for public schools. I would like to know any information about that. I would also like to know if the can make me take the tests before the 3 month deadline. Thank you ahead of time for any useful information.
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    1. 3/22/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      The GEPIK program has a very similar standardized test as the regular E2 test.  They are primarily going to be checking for contagious diseases and problems that might effect your teaching abilities.  However, the test may have changed in the past few years.  Perhaps it is best to contact somebody actually in the GEPIK program to find out further details. 

      vicodin should not be a problem, it is probably available in Korea as a pain relief and many of the ingredient. 

      xanax, not too sure about this one.  Best check with your doctor.  Not sure how long it takes to flush out of your system.  But most drugs are gone in a matter of a week.

      I would stay away from the drugs.  It could lead you into some big trouble in Korea.

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  • 3/31/2010 RKCME wrote:
    First let me thank you for having this discussion, it helps so much to find quality information on this mad Korean requirement.

    To cut a long story short I'll be clean of cannabis for 3 weeks when I get to Korea, which is roughly 3 weeks from yesterday I suppose it will take them 10 days before it's hinted to me to take the tests etc. so that'll bring me above the haloed 4 weeks mark.

    When you go into the hospital is it a case of 20 minutes in and out the door or will I have to strip, get into a gown and sit about for a few hrs?

    Would it be also possible for me to say I am taking medication for a certain condition (I'll do my research etc.) that may cause me to fail so I'll need to wait some days (2 weeks?) before I take the test as I need to finish my course of medication... I do have 90 days right?

    Seriously, I can't say how much of a help this thread has been but the answers to the above would put my mind at rest greatly.
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    1. 4/5/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      Yes, You do have 90 days before you must take the medical.  However, you may get pressure from your school to do it before hand.  How long does it take?  That will be different at any hospital.  They do x-ray and a few other things, so expect it to be a little more than just in and out.  You should not have a problem with being on any standard medication... I would not worry about that.  Just as long as it is not an illegal substance.

      I am glad this thread as helped
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  • 4/28/2010 A1308tx wrote:
    First thanks for this thread, I just have a quick question. I am leaving for Korea in 16 days, getting there on a Saturday. I will be have not smoked by that time in a little over 2 weeks. I am running, drinking fluids, etc, anything I can to detox, but I am still very concerned. Since this post was started a few years ago, I was wondering if the THC test was still not mandatory, and what advice you would have for my present situation. I don't expect to be tested on the day I arrive, but I want to plan for that possibility. Am I screwed?
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    1. 4/29/2010 ESL Daily wrote:
      No, you are not screwed... well not from your THC, might want to work on your grammar a bit, if you are going to be teaching English.  There are detox kits that you can get, not sure though what is available in your area, just go to a drug store or ask your doctor.  In total it will be over a month since your last pot encounter... and even longer for your medical, you should be just fine.  BUT, as I keep on saying, they are not testing for THC anymore... so you should prepare yourself for teaching rather than worrying about POT.
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  • 7/12/2010 Kevin wrote:
    Hey I just took my drug test today in Korea and I'm glad I did because I just came across this article that was published LATER TODAY (7/12/2010). Wanted to know if you could check the validity of this and also WANT TO WARN OTHER POTENTIAL TEACHERS THAT THIS MIGHT BE HAPPENING! Check the link

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/07/117_69263.html
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  • 7/13/2010 Hmmm wrote:
    Why would somebody post this:

    "7/7/2010 Deported wrote:
    WRONG DAVE, WRONG!
    I WAS JUST DEPORTED ON JUNE 18TH 2010 BECAUSE I FAILED THE CANNABINOID TEST.
    IF YOU ARE A TEACHER ABOUT TO GO OVER THERE AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT FAILING YOUR TEST ONCE YOU GET THERE- BUY A SELF-TEST KIT AND DO IT AT HOME BEFORE YOU GO. IF YOU FAIL, THEN JUST WAIT!"

    If you claim they are currently not testing for THC? Something is amiss here. Unfortunately I read this article when I was back home and neglected to read any of the comments. Because of that I will likely test positive and be deported when I get my results in a couple days. I will update and let everyone know what happens. If I get deported THIS ARTICLE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.
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  • 7/15/2010 Bebuggery wrote:
    It looks like the government has taken a huge step backwards in regards to this issue.

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/07/117_69263.html

    If this information is accurate, everybody ought to disregard the advice posted previously in this thread: the E-2 visa now requires a marijuana test!!!
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